I didnt believe it. They took my Dostoyevsky and even my Calvin and Hobbes. The mental torture they put you through was insane. 2004 SCL was investigated concerning the death of a 17 year old girl byThe Montana Department of Public Health and Human Services (DPHHS) resulting in a complaint filed for child abuse and neglect against the school and specifically its directors, Cameron and Chaffin Pullan. Hello!!!!! Yeah its amazing how every parent got sold the your kids gonna wind up dead story. I will be released at the end of this year. The town of Dillon is the charming western stop for all necessary amenities. I know being a parent is challenging. I have so many stories from what went on there but not enough time or space here lol. I am doing my own research for background on a possible article. I remember being IN LOVE with you (the Alaska comment reminded me!!) Dont remember fight with dignity. It talking to my parents I watched countless times as fellow students were beat and neglected in the hobbit there was one student who they sent to the hobbit every day I hope the kids who were abused win there case if this place was still open I would run up in that camp and take shit over I was in respect sept through December, Moderated ? Please enable cookies on your browser and try again. The desert was called Survivor and next was to come Challenger. Must have been on the winter event with you. There were signs everywhere that said private property and no trespassing. Blackburn or blackbourne? YEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! A lot of his sarcasm actually helped me get through the insanity we had to experience there. Your kids likely do not need to be shipped off to get help. The nearest commercial airport is in the town of Butte, which is within a 1-hour drive from the ranch. I have night mares still as well fuck I am 30 years old now and still cant get past my time spent there. John the one i remember was a cool guy, he was the one that talked to me when i got there. A girl committed suicide in that place, children were abused and it was all documented and the school was even shut down because of how many lawsuits they had on their hands and because parents started to see what was going on there and stopped sending their kids there. I ran away and did most of the things I did to survive and forget my life. My name is Lindsay and I am from Paso Robles, California. So on a trip up to the hobbit one time i ran into a girls hobbit and kissed this cute little blond girl. The list goes on. We use to watch movies with u guys on sundays. Take care. 4th generation owners Daryl & Theresa Smith welcome you to enjoy DePuy Spring Creek, a world-class trout fishery nestled between the breathtaking vistas of the Absaroka and Gallatin mountain ranges in beautiful Paradise Valley south of Livingston, Montana. Dont get me started with special needs. There have been a disproportionate amount of suicides and other tragedies endured by wwasp detainees. I remember Eugene, I think we called him little 2Pac. One day they will have to answer for the things they did. work the program or you will be there until you turn eighteen. I grew somewhat accustomed to the monotony, floating through the same day over and over and over again. With an extensive variety of stream habitats, these waters present challenges worthy of the most dedicated trout anglers. Ha! Anyway, They gave me a number to the Heron facility. I remember Cameron made a kid jump into that little pod by the court if he wanted to go back inside At the end of the day none of these staff were qualified to work with us!so called outta control kids it was just a source of income for them.If I remember right it was either work at the Mill or work there at spring Creek in a county of less then a thousand people which one would you choose.Much less kids trying to staff other kids that had trouble listening to there family how did they expect that to work under those circumstances sometimes Id have a 13 year old kid telling me what I could and couldnt do. I actually liked that because I didnt have to deal with those sessions. I also got in trouble for talking to other level-ones as level-ones can only talk to their buddies or level-threes and higher. ONLY ENTER RIG LENGTH All sites will accommodate tow/towed vehicles. That place did way more harm than good. I dont understand it. Recently Sold in Montana Antelope Creek Ranch $29,500,000 The Antelope Creek Ranch is located approximately 6 miles west of Big Timber, 28 miles eas Harwood Ranch $25,000,000 Straddling Gallatin and Madison Counties in southwest Montana, the Harwood Ranch is one of Lazy TP Ranch $24,500,000. I cannot imagine the betrayal you kids felt, having your parents trick and abandon you. Thank you, He probably wont remember me, but I remember him as he was assigned to my family a lot. Now that I know he had to say that stuff I hate these people for betraying what we were trying SO hard to hold onto. I was sent away in 2003-2005. They practiced physical, mental, and emotional abuse. After spending 4 months in spring creek HELL, luckily I turned 18 & demanded to leave. Situated on the Laramie Plains in south central Wyoming, the Spring Creek Ranch controls 3,190+/- acres of productive Wyoming prairie. I was part of the serenity family. On my survival our only girl Amanda wrecked her knee, like day 1 in Flagstaff so they shipped her out and apparently she stayed at he upper/main/school campus I remember a big Samoan guy stealing my clothes (never got them back), stealing the Mountain Dew can I got for Christmas, and hitting me and slapping me to wake me up in the middle of the night, telling me walk without shoes into a van outside in the snow, to be driven to Montana from Utah. It didnt take long until it started to sink in. Spent a lot of time in a lot of facilitys but tranquility bay and spring creek were by far the worse. Did I fimd it Funny that only cute girls got to Work at Camerons and Chaffins Home? I hate it even exists. I was there from fall of 01-March of 02. The trap these schools played was flawless to say the least, Ive actually kicked it with some kids afterwards and it is amazing to think people this successful in some cases had to do something so horrid. Just then, I look up and see a young girl, hispanic, walking the tracks passed our crews and out onto the long tall bridge. The biomass in the spring creeks are astounding and trout densities are extremely high. I did make my decisions. I showed up to Spring Creek Lodge a level 5 and that was fucking weird. These images of that place in my mindlike a bad dream. Just as I am leaving Heron, I see an older lady fast walking to catch up to a 14/15 year old girl, of Mexican decent. I just read the article on what he had done to his grandfathers and when it said that no one said anything positive about Josh I was shocked. I was at SCL from 2005 to 2007, and I feel exactly the same way as Zach. Unfortunately that brought about a lot of abuse at the hands of the staff. He was from the East Coast somewhere like North Carolina. It is like talking to a soldier and having never been in the military. Because your pretty much teaching yourself. Choose from Montana's most comprehensive selection of fly fishing trips. Continue to be happy, take care of the young ones and the wife, and be thankful. Our HS transcripts do not exist. The best spring creek fishing in Montana Guest Cabin on the Creek Make your Montana experience unforgettable: Be our guest in this quaint, rustic cabin sitting on the banks of upper Armstrong's Spring Creek. The ranch has been endowed with some of the most impressive natural resources found anywhere in the west all of which have been enhanced and protected by the current owners' stewardship practices. Then got transferred to the ranch. I was scared to talk about it till I was in my 30s. I feel so lonely in these memories and trauma and talking to someone who went through it might help. Chaffin Pullan first worked for WWASP at Cross Creek in 1991 and 1992. It was attached to another dorm by a door, but we werent allowed to talk to the girls living there. 18 was far away for her, her parents had been brain washed by then and we had both dropped from level 4 to 0000 black cloud status. How is he? It all starts with hiring people qualified to care for kids. If I slammed my child onto the ground, chicken-winged them, locked them into a small room or made them lay on their face or assume so-called stress positions (which have been ruled torture and not allowable even for detainees being interrogated in Gitmo) for days on end, I would rightly be charged with child abuse. Is your name nick? I remember the car ride and the 4 months of nothing just sitting thinking Im going to wake up. I hope someone..anyone remembers me. Finally , stinking to all high heavens we came outta the desert all lean and hungry. I called it my Space Suit because the cold was real and deadly. DePuy Spring Creek LLC PO Box 1184 Livingston, MT 59047 Most of you out there that say it was a prison or cult only say that because your little kids throwing a temper tantrum because you didnt get your way, you didnt get to party late and have sex or take drugs, because you had NO respect for your parents or yourselves..oh and you were aloud to talk to your parents there just not straight away.. Hey buddy, long long time huh? As I said. If u want to call me since I am not much into computers please feel free. The service requires full cookie support in order to view this website. www.ranchflip.com is using a security service for protection against online attacks. This poor kid doesnt even know where he is and theyre going to torment him in a language he doesnt understand. He fought up until the end, kept his sense of humor throughouteven when he needed a double lung transplant. I was 14. I was in the family Charity and never made it past level 2. Just looking for pictures and memories good and bad. We had such a bad reputation that Cameron forced us to rename the family in an attempt to get a fresh start. Early 2004. I didnt talk to my father for 20 years after that day. My bad. Its called parenting its what you signed up for when you had kids. The surrounding mountain ranges and plains offer great hunting opportunities for healthy herds of elk, antelope, Whitetail and Mule deer. Lol, i left christmas day 2000. i was also in excel. It would be priceless to talk to those whom understand. How many photos are available for this home? I think I remember Chelsea. Someone mentioned that it was a place where we lost our dreams and it seems like that US true bc everything th a rd happened to me after I left has been a result of what that place made me become. I am looking for information on Raoul Ribeiro, he worked as a therapist at SCL in the early 2000s, under Linderman. If you have difficulty accessing content, have difficulty viewing a file on the website, or notice any accessibility problems, please contact us at 833.982.1964 to specify the nature of the accessibility issue and any assistive technology you use. Anyways he could of just walked out of there technically but we shared a bunk and we just waited until the night staff that always falls asleep was there and the staff that was the leader of our cabin (jay bird) I feel so bad because he was the nicest out of all the staff. It's nestled between the Absaroka and Gallatin Mountain ranges providing not only world class fishing, but also unrivaled breathtaking views. They put us in the 4 wheel drive bus again and took us up higher into the mountains. He died in 2011 and I still think so much about what he went through and if he would maybe be alive if he never went there to begin with. As a parent, your voice carries weight in the fight against these evil people. I hope he hires a lawyer soon. My friends were Jeremy Witmer, Thom Carhart, Mike DeAlba, Eric Henderson, Chris Gueiterz (i totally spelled that wrong), Travis Hanson, James Westlund, James Boatright, Chris Miller, Jim Oetter and many others whose names escape me. IG @345_2012, hey, this message is for Amanda, not sure if you were expecting a reply, and late for that matter. We will have to transfer her to another level facility.. Most did in one way or another. Anyone know a James Lothian or a Ryan Brown. People cheeking and trading meds, one guy evwn got caught smoking the one nug of weed he managed to smuggle in using an apple and a lighter he stole from one of the car of one of the many stoners they had working there. in 2010, a program of the same name as the Pullans program in utah, RiverView Academy, was opened in Thompson by Mickey Manning and his wife Lorne. Supposedly they ran, stole a car, and stole a boat before being caught by the police and put in juvenile hall. Curious that he wrote a book and actually admits to being a wwasp employee. I was driving my work truck back West to Clarkfork, ID from Heron, MT along the frontage road. I was failing school miserably, I had no clue what was going on in class because I missed so much school from a staph infection that I got that caused me to need hip surgery twice I had to walk on crutches for two years. It was miserable there. Jenna did u get in trouble for note passing with a jr.staff ? My brother and I were there in 1998 to 1999. In addition to the nearby Beaverhead River, there are many other classic waters accessible by drift boat or wading within an hours drive from the ranch. I was scared and lonely the entire time. Laramie, Wyoming (Albany County) $1,550,000 Sold. What a fucking shame. And thats at a bare minimum, giving him the probably-unwarranted benefit of the doubt and assuming he never actually abused anyone himself. Its all part of the experience and sadly, a lot of teens didnt have the chance to experience any of it. No wonder you enjoyed your time there. My experience at SCL showed me the more cruel and evil side of human nature. Many of the staff and fellow students came to know me as Cook or Cooker. I only saw you once or twice because they separated boys and girls, but I thought you were cute. can you tell me which facility so i can ask around? Anyway, Im doing good. Sending everyone love and healing from all this awful shit. Galt Ranch spans 248,023 acres in White Sulphur Springs, Montana. Bartend and enjoy a Montana adventure! i was at spring creek lodge the summer of 2004 (in serenity). bhmendenhall1@yahoo.com, Wow, pretty crazy to come across this site. Did i have a problem growing up as a child, yes, thats why my grandmother sent me there, however no one helped me. Places like this do not help kids. Fucking wild. What a creep show those seminars were. They meant to make us weak and docile through shock. We ended up in court and i was trying to find a better place for my daughter than our local system. They always talk about through the kids at the facility fake it until you make it this was very true because if you didnt you were severely punished with consequences. Devin was the stocky short guy. I was there in 2004 in eternity family. The Pullansserved as owners and administrators of the SCL facility until 2009, when the school was closed. It was an action born of us sitting up at night talking when we were family leaders trying to make sure we didnt get programmed. We are located near Livingston, Montana just 40 miles north of Yellowstone National Park Armstrong Spring Creek on the O'Hair Ranch - Spring Creek Fly Fishing in Montana Redfin does not endorse or guarantee this information. My Dad had lied to mehe said I was going to music school and then surprise: I got abducted by two Samoan guys in an airport in Reno, and I had no idea what was happening or where I was headed. Was one of the only black kids there. I listened to the ladies and the girl for about 1/2 hour. They kicked my brother out because he refused to participate in any of that whacked out shit lol So on top of the seminars you had monogenesis daily wake up bell 5 minute shit shower and shave for 20 bunks if they didnt shower the night before get ready line up dick to butt in silence. I was there in 2003. The C Lazy G Ranch, also known in the sporting world as the McCoy Spring Creek Ranch, is located near Dillon in Montana's fabled Beaverhead Valley. I left late summer of 2003 when I was 17. I wonder if the place is for sale? So many memories of that shit hole I could go on for hours if not days. but its true. My friend Jennifer and I decided we would find out. The lodge is located next to one of the largest Wilderness areas in the U.S. You can fish for salmon in the Middle Fork of the Salmon River. I still have some of the worst and best memories from there. They were shown they could have a little power over others and ran with it and for the majority of them came across to me as kids that didnt really belong in any sort of place like this. Outdoor enthusiasts will enjoy the opportunity to work at the world's first Forbes Travel Guide Five-Star guest ranch and glamping destination. Tell me why this muthafucking train was flying by at about 60 mph. Jessica, I think I remember you. Choose from over 20 fabled blue ribbon rivers that we target. Professional guide services are a great option to acquaint an incoming owner with the water. 2002 to 2003. I saw the special treatment given to girls that had been there too long in order to speed up their graduation. At that point i stop caring cause i was about to go home anyway. I took him under my wing and we hung out a lot! Hopefully hell continue doing what hes been doing for the last ten years flying around the world on blood money and watching his emanciated baby factory of a wife try to run marathons til she falls over dead.