I hope that there will be enough detail for me to identify the order of tang and guard stamp introduction on the W49s and other models as well. IMHO there are two problems here. Turning off personalized advertising opts you out of these sales. Learn more in our Privacy Policy., Help Center, and Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy. I am aware of much of the history of the Western Bowie knife company and how the w49s were originally made for the special forces but what I cannot seem to find is wat year the model I was made. Beauregard Prestige Edition Bowie Knife $99.95 Details Land of the Free Bowie Knife $99.95 Details Apollo 13 Bowie Knife $99.95 Details 2,359,467, 4,289,941 I carry it with me on all my excursions. Western Bowie Knife (1 - 40 of 159 results) Price ($) Shipping All Sellers 16-Inch Old Western Bowie Knife D2 Steel Fixed Blade Wooden Handle / Leather Knife Sheath scorpionhubus (30) $135.00 $150.00 (10% off) FREE shipping Tombstone Ike / Billy Clanton Bowie knife custom-made Hand grind in Texas carbon 1985 steel antler Handle made to order 1 week #1 of 4 hotels in Bowie Location 4.3 Cleanliness 4.1 Service 4.0 Value 3.8 Located in Bowie,TX, the Best Western Bowie Inn & Suites is sure to provide a peaceful and comforting home away from home for any traveler. Please check your browser settings or contact your system administrator. (50% off), Sale Price 1,896,552 Try using a different browser or disabling ad blockers. (50% off), Sale Price 1,666,256 This photo illustrates what I mean when I speak of larger pins versus smaller pins. W49, W47, W45 and the W43. Western made at least two different stock numbered bowies during the Vietnam time period. (See picture) Without taking the grips off there is no way to tell if it was a factory job or post purchase. I used the Forester first, while I was fresh. Damascus Steel: Is My Knife Real or Fake. (45% off), Sale Price 2,955,665 Those partners may have their own information theyve collected about you. It is blade marked:WESTERN / USA / W49 with the letter "A" which signifies the first year that Western implemented the alphabetical date code (1977). While the official end of the Vietnam war is April 30 1975 The day the North Vietnamese entered the U.S. Embassy grounds. Heres mine with box and paper works as well as the original sales receipt from December of 68. Also they produced the stock number (649) a bowie with a handle made of synthetic stag for the handle. Let me know. It is a V-44 pattern made for the US military by multiple manufacturers. He designed it as a hunting knife and gave it to James for protection after his brother had been shot in a fight. It was thrown in the dirt by a local maker. Original Price 4,962,808 Powered by Invision Community. Large Bowies features excellent stag horn grip with brass pommel and English style brass cross guard. Original Price 4,289,941 By: Westmark Knives Date Added: 02/22/2018 $175.00 Buy Now. Original Price 4,662,315 Because it still seems like an amazing knife. Original leather sheath. You can see where some of the plating is peeling with age and use. I like them very much. "Western" and "Coleman" are both brand names; which is it? Here is the best that I can find as far as their tang stamping is concerned That's about all I know. Original Price 2,997,044 Inspect in Game. The facts are that the last two years of the war The U.S. was not sending in much of anything into the country as far as manpower and equipment. I don't consider it to be bad. When Coleman bought Western in 1984, they continued the practice, up through M. When Camillus bought Western from Coleman in 1991, they dropped the practice. You must log in or register to reply here. This post is reserved to hold future oddballs/commemorative/special editions as they pop up in the future. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:42 am, Post The Timber Rattler Western Outlaw Bowie Knife is the best of the best when it comes to getting a great bowie knife on a budget. Original Price 7,248,225 http://img443.No_outside_hosting.us/i/cbf7pjgcwkkgrhqyoknmez4.jpg/. 1,516,995, 2,758,374 Take full advantage of our site features by enabling JavaScript. In 1838 Rezin P. Bowie, brother of Alamo hero James Bowie claimed that he made the first Bowie knife while the Bowies lived in Avoyelles Parish, Louisiana. Original Price 4,844,560 Create an account or login in order to post a comment. (39% off), Sale Price 3,722,167 Report an Issue | I have spent many hours cruising around here. Sale Price $120.00 It's easy! 1978 was "B" and so on. 1 month ago on ebay.com. The side by side testing I mentioned was chopping through a five inch thick seasoned locust log. "Leather handled Bowie". Eventually purchased by Camillus in 1991, Western continued until Camillus expired in 2007. i still have mine its a hellava knife!! We've sent you an email to confirm your subscription. While it may not be everyone's self-defense weapon of choice, a Bowie knife is an excellent hunting knife. Great! Coleman Western 954 Double Lock with box and pouch (1989), Western USA S-532 "A" Wood Westlock Lockback 1977, Vintage Western Boulder Colo. 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It could have been a special order as there were Western Bowies ordered by 5th Special Forces with blade inscriptions. $80-$140 yablanowitz Platinum Member Joined Apr 14, 2006 Messages 9,333 Jun 13, 2009 #3 Depending on the exact age of the knives, they may be very good steel. You are using an out of date browser. They sharpen up like a razor and I need to make heavy duty sheaths for them. (20% off), Sale Price $36.50 For Sale By: Sanders Knives (Sanders Knives), View all items for sale by Sanders Knives, Shipping & Handling to United States Addresses: $8.50. Western W49 Fixed Blade Bowie Survival Knife USA Leather Sheath Vintage: $260.00. Western started doing this in 1977 and Coleman/Western continued it. Yes! That makes it a pretty serious chopper in my book. I bought one at a Sheriff's auction about 20 years ago. Western W49 Bowie Knife - Vintage Bowie From Boulder Colorado CloverTac 14.9K subscribers 5.6K views 4 years ago #TacticalLeprechaun Today let's take a look at a cool vintage Western w49. (25% off), Sale Price 1,435,714 Check out our awesome collection now. The W47 measures 12" from tip to hilt, W45 measures 9" and the 43 or mini measures 6 1/2". Exterior: Minimal Wear. sp 8 weighs a ton, if I wanted a field piece I would take the w49 over it ant day of the week. The unique design of the blade gave it its power and its name thanks to James Bowie, a hero of the Alamo gave it its prestige. Would be great for batoning as it had a very heavy blade of about 6 inches long. Ive got WW2 and earlier knives that left the factory chrome plated and most of them look as new or close to it. Set where you live, what language you speak, and the currency you use. Original Price 4,876,847 3,338,731, 4,173,456 western style Bowie knife Hammerheadknife (13) $200.00 FREE shipping More like this Large bowie knife ForgeZbk (14) $599.24 FREE shipping More like this 10 inches Blade Hand crafted Bowie knife, Bushcraft knife, full tang, leaf spring of truck, Tempered, Razor Sharpen, Ready to use Famouskukri (186) $149.99 $249.99 (40% off) FREE shipping Top Rated Seller. Buy It Now. by kootenay joe Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:49 pm, Post Turning off the personalized advertising setting wont stop you from seeing Etsy ads or impact Etsy's own personalization technologies, but it may make the ads you see less relevant or more repetitive. It differs from the W49 by the stainless steel used in the blade and the synthetic stag material they used for the handle. (45% off), Sale Price $21.96 An old and proven friend. Stories of Cowboys and Indians and shoot-outs at the O.K. Original Price $150.00 I own one like this and I believe its version 1, there is a second stainless steel version that came out shortly after guard marked STAINLESS STEEL over BOWIE just like you said but I believe that to be version 2, let me know your thoughts. That is really the one question I have about the knife. Etsys 100% renewable electricity commitment includes the electricity used by the data centers that host Etsy.com, the Sell on Etsy app, and the Etsy app, as well as the electricity that powers Etsys global offices and employees working remotely from home in the US. FREE SHIPPING ON ORDERS OVER $99* & 60-DAY RETURNS. The knife on the left is the 2nd variant of the W49 and is blade marked: WESTERN / BOWIE / USA. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. I would stay away from those not marked "BOWIE" on the blade or cross guard. 1,637,685, 2,339,655 In 2020 alone, purchases on Etsy generated nearly $4 billion in income for small businesses. Original Price $188.24 I'm curious to know what year Western first manufactured the W49? This practice was continued after Western was sold to the Coleman Co. in 1984 and goes on until 1991. $89.17, $297.22 I am trying to decide between the Western, Case, Ontario, or the new Remington. The knife on the right in my picture above is an example of the 3rd variant. (60% off), Sale Price $86.70 We've sent you an email to confirm your subscription. 2,955,665, 9,852,217 Typically, orders of $35 USD or more (within the same shop) qualify for free standard shipping from participating Etsy sellers. Try using a different browser or disabling ad blockers. As far as a real chopper goes, my W49 out performed my Spyderco/Hossum Forester in side by side testing. Etsy uses cookies and similar technologies to give you a better experience, enabling things like: Detailed information can be found in Etsys Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy and our Privacy Policy. $135.00, $150.00 You are using an out of date browser. Public collections can be seen by the public, including other shoppers, and may show up in recommendations and other places. This would provide the best provenance to establishing the exact time periods for these variations on the Western W49 and 649 knifes. Mine probably dates back farther than yours (before Coleman bought Western) and the vanadium steel they used back then was excellent. 2,370,466, 4,740,933 There was a problem subscribing you to this newsletter. (25% off), Sale Price 2,603,550 (45% off), Sale Price 1,637,685 that was when i was riding with a club, i'm 6'2'' and 230 lbs (wish i still was ) and nobody messed with me, great trouble detorent lol. Consignment Program Packing Your Knives. Original Price 6,157,389 Keep in mind that anyone can view public collectionsthey may also appear in recommendations and other places. Original Price 4,173,456 Original Price $400.00 (45% off), Sale Price 3,047,783 (10% off), Sale Price $22.40 In fact in 20 years of service, was never given a Vietnam carried knife. Great 'package'. IMHO many more variations on these knives also fall into the proper Vietnam time period. I've never had the Bowie, but older Westerns are fantastic knives. (45% off), Sale Price 1,952,663 See all reviews . I own one which is believed to be the 3rd variant of the Western W49 Bowie knife. I had a new one in the box a few years ago and let it go too cheap for 100.00 at a gun show so I could purchase something else. The W49 is the most common found today. 1,722,414, 2,460,591 But I believe I can give you some good advice. I have always thought that the Western Bowie with the bigger handle bolts, thick handle, W49 guard marks and ringed sheath was post Vietnam but then came across this on ebay. I believe that it provides a fairly accurate chronology of the Western W49 Bowie. If your really lucky you might come across a presentation piece but that is still not a guarentee that it was in Vietnam. My cousin (who served in Vietnam from 1968 to 1969) said he saw knives in country with chrome plating to protect them from moisture. The appearance of items in the individual listings may vary slightly from the one above. (30% off), Sale Price 1,183,432 $66.55, $121.00 Good news! To enable personalized advertising (like interest-based ads), we may share your data with our marketing and advertising partners using cookies and other technologies. Comes with the original sheath, has two notches cutout at top, not sure why, but been there a while. C $128.75. The knife in the box above looks dull due to the original preservative still being on the knife after 40+ years. An "I" version would be from 1985, the year after Coleman took over. All of the W49s Ive seen from Western Cutlery are high carbon steel and most of them show some sign of aging after 30 plus years. I guess I have been lucky over the past 35 years of collecting. The second problem is defining the Vietnam time period for these knives and other equipment. You could buy it for its charming looks alone, but it performs nearly as well. Pics would help to identify the knife. 1 In Stock $34.97 More Info For Sale By: GSPTOPDOG Coleman Western 954 Double Lock with box and pouch (1989) 1 In Stock $70.00 More Info For Sale By: LDF Knives Western USA S-532 "A" Wood Westlock Lockback 1977 1 In Stock $95.00 More Info For Sale By: Knives Templar Sellers looking to grow their business and reach more interested buyers can use Etsys advertising platform to promote their items. 0 CART. Many sellers on Etsy offer personalized, made-to-order items. A top-end bowie knife that's been around since World War II, the Ka-Bar U.S. Marine Corps Bowie Knife is durable and versatile. Camillus discontinued the use of date codes. Original Price $289.00 $123.74, $164.99 I didn't really like it so I gave it to my brother. You've already signed up for some newsletters, but you haven't confirmed your address. Looking for a real knife? Mine probably dates back farther than yours (before Coleman bought Western) and the vanadium steel they used back then was excellent. Charlie, How easy or difficult is it to come across a Western Bowie that actually looks like it may have seen use during the Vietnam War. I hope it helps? It is guard marked: WESTERN BOULDER / COLO. USA on the mark side and BOWIE on the pile side. The Timber Rattler Western Outlaw is an attention grabber with its classic gray hardwood handle. At least none that I can find. I'm confused. Original Price 2,216,502 There are things in the old Book which I may not be able to explain, but I fully accept it as the infallible word of God, and receive its teachings as inspired by the Holy Spirit.. To enable personalized advertising (like interest-based ads), we may share your data with our marketing and advertising partners using cookies and other technologies. Original Price $31.38 I did it out of personal curiosity when I got my Forester. (70% off), Sale Price $89.17 Thanks for all the Western Bowie related info, catalog links, etc. 1,435,714, 2,610,345 Now I see them going for very good money. Thin edges can chop without damage, you just have to keep the blade straight so the force of the swing is aligned with the edge. The stamping is only on the Brass guard and there are no letters denoting age. They all had really good documentation. Original Price 1,206,897 If there is a letter on the blade under the Western name it is post 1977. Original Price $121.68 As you can see it also has the small pins in the handle. Although it is not as pleasing to the eye as the wooden handled Western, it does have many of the same features as the V-44 pattern of old. In 1911, H. N. Platts, was able to draw on his extensive friendships and family connections in the cutlery world to start Western States Cutlery and Manufacturing of Boulder Colorado. 1,812,130, 7,248,225 Skinning/Hunting/Camping knife, Western States, Boulder Colorado 2 blade pocket knife / Advertising pocket knife c.1911-1950. remembering account, browser, and regional preferences, remembering privacy and security settings, personalized search, content, and recommendations, helping sellers understand their audience, showing relevant, targeted ads on and off Etsy. Those partners may have their own information theyve collected about you. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 1,912,315, 2,249,754 L Lenka Kuerkov Cool Knives La Forge Lame Film Props Knife Handles Y Yves Tactical Swords Blacksmithing Knives Bowie Knives Craftsmanship . Late 1800s antique British US Western style Bowie knife marked IXL. January 6, 2011 in EDGED WEAPONS, hi i want to get a vietnam western bowie knife, but not sure how to tell any differences if there is with them if anyone can help me it would be very helpful. Email with Questionsor Offers: sandersknives@gmail.com. Original Price $200.00 (40% off), Sale Price $75.30 JavaScript is disabled. I think I read somewhere that when Camillus bought the name in 1991, they moved production to the Camillus factory in New York. Turning off personalized advertising opts you out of these sales. Learn more in our Privacy Policy., Help Center, and Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy. Original Price 1,995,074 by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:04 am, Post Timber Rattler Western Outlaw Bowie Knife 29.99 This Timber Rattler Outlaw bowie knife is one powerful full-tang beast that every manly man needs. It can also be identified by the smaller pins in the handle. Sellers looking to grow their business and reach more interested buyers can use Etsys advertising platform to promote their items. Etsys 100% renewable electricity commitment includes the electricity used by the data centers that host Etsy.com, the Sell on Etsy app, and the Etsy app, as well as the electricity that powers Etsys global offices and employees working remotely from home in the US. Im thinking these must have come from their custom shop. (45% off), Sale Price 2,068,966 i have one i bought late 80's i think 60 bucks otd, got it cuase a buddy had one and he loved it. According to Westerns 1986 catalog they started producing the W49 in 1964. 2,603,550, 4,733,728 899,015, 2,997,044 All photos were 10 chops. here's a pic of the western along side an old trailmaster and recon. Description. $22.40, $28.00 Well used and somewhat pitted since I got them used. I have a Western Bowie knife that my father gave me years ago. Vintage Western U.S.A W49 Bowie Knife Pre-Owned C $337.45 Top Rated Seller or Best Offer from United States Sponsored Extremely rare, Western Cutlery, model W49 Bowie fighting knife C $607.40 or Best Offer from United States Sponsored Vintage Large Western Bowie Knife W49 F Pre-Owned C $337.44 Buy It Now +C $27.52 shipping estimate The ONLY differences between versions #2, #3 and #4 are in stamp location(s). I have two of them. It appears that much was lost during the periods that Western changed hands. Terms of Service. (45% off), Sale Price 3,386,453 Both have stacked leather handles, and 8" Marble's Ideal style blades. Below are pictures of the guard: To the best of my knowledge the 4th variant would have the larger pins and would be guard marked similar to the 3rd variant. It was also the last year they were made in Boulder, CO. - They moved to Longmont, CO. in 1978 and continued the alphabet dating code for another 15 years until they were sold at auction to Camillus in 1991. From handmade pieces to vintage treasures ready to be loved again, Etsy is the global marketplace for unique and creative goods. ** I "BUY" KNIVES ** - Any Size Collection!!! Turning off the personalized advertising setting wont stop you from seeing Etsy ads or impact Etsy's own personalization technologies, but it may make the ads you see less relevant or more repetitive. Mine is a coleman with a k stamp on it. Boy, I'll say! Original Price $169.99 Original Price 8,347,245 (10% off), Sale Price $148.00 I don't know how long they made this knife but by the 1978 catalog it has disappeared. Through name changes--to Western States Cutlery Co. in 1953, then Western Cutlery Co. in 1956--and moves first across town and later to Longmont Colorado, the company stayed under the leadership of the Platt family until 1984.